“Waking Moments”
Written by André Bormanis
Directed by Alexander Singer
Season 4, Episode 13
Production episode 182
Original air date: January 14, 1998
Stardate: 51471.3
Captain’s log. Janeway, Tuvok, Kim, and Paris are all dreaming. Janeway dreams that she enters the mess hall to find it full of cobweb-covered corpses of the crew, because she didn’t get them home in time. Tuvok reports to the bridge completely naked. Paris is in a shuttle that suffers a catastrophic failure and he can’t get through to Voyager for help. And Kim is seduced by Seven. They all see an unfamiliar alien in the dream.
Janeway, Paris, and Kim are all late for their shift on the bridge. (Tuvok, of course, is on time anyhow.) Janeway arrives and notices that Kim and Paris are late, and she tells Chakotay of her dream—Paris arrives in the middle of it, and we learn that Chakotay also had a weird dream involving him hunting a deer. And they both saw a strange alien, and Paris and Tuvok admit that they saw a similar alien in their dream.
Kim still hasn’t reported, and he’s not answering comms. The computer says he’s in his quarters, so Janeway and Tuvok go there to see Kim in a deep sleep and apparently unable to wake up.
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Turns out, he’s not the only one. Several crewmembers are now in sickbay, in a deep enough REM sleep that they defy all of the EMH’s attempts to revive them. The still-awake members of the senior staff jointly compose an image of the alien. Seven doesn’t recognize the species as one the Borg has encountered. And there are no planets that can sustain life or ships in sensor range.
Chakotay suggests contacting them via dreams—specifically a lucid dream, one in which the dreamer is aware that they’re dreaming. With the help of his vision quest gadgets, Chakotay can induce a lucid dream and try to communicate with the alien. He uses an image of Earth’s moon as an anchor point, and will tap his wrist three times to wake up.
He finds himself on Voyager holding a spear, hunting a deer. He sees Earth’s moon in a window, and knows then that he’s in a dream, but aware of it. The deer morphs into the alien, who is shocked to see that Chakotay is aware that he’s dreaming. He says that he believes Voyager to be a threat. Chakotay assures him that they aren’t. They’re just passing through, and the alien tells him to go to a six-planet star system less than a parsec away. That’s the outermost border of their space.
Chakotay wakes himself up and shares what happened. Tuvok finds the six-planet system on sensors and Paris sets a course. As they approach the system, Kim and the others finally wake up. Seven asks Kim to go with her to the same Jefferies Tube that Seven invited him to in his dream for smooching, and Kim backs off saying he’s still recovering. Torres, Paris, Kim, and Tuvok discuss their dreams in the mess hall, including Torres teasing Kim when he won’t give details of his.
Suddenly, the ship is under attack. The aliens lured them into a trap, and they board Voyager and take everyone in the crew hostage. While Janeway and Chakotay are trying to find a way to escape from the cargo bay where they’re being held, Chakotay catches sight of Earth’s moon—
—at which point he realizes that he never woke up from the lucid dream. He taps his hand three times, and wakes up for realsies this time. According to the EMH, he’s been asleep for two days, and the entire rest of the crew has also fallen asleep—except for the doctor, anyhow. Based on the brainwave patterns of the entire crew, they’re all having the same dream. Chakotay realizes that the aliens put them in a joint dream. The EMH has also detected a neurogenic field on board, and Chakotay hits on the idea of trying to find a neurogenic field to locate the aliens.
In the shared dream, Janeway and the others figure out that they’re all dreaming, but they have to act as if they’re still on Voyager trying to take the ship back. Janeway, Tuvok, and Torres manage to escape the cargo bay and head to engineering. Torres tries to kill the alien dampening field, but instead trigger a warp-core breach—which doesn’t actually destroy the ship or kill everyone. That proves it’s a dream, and the aliens’ weapons can no longer harm them.
After falling asleep again, and only realizing he’s dreaming when he sees the moon in the viewscreen, Chakotay pilots the ship to the aliens’ planet. He beams down, carrying a stimulant the EMH gave him in case he nods off again. But he decides to give the stimulant to one of the aliens and tells him to shut the neurogenic field off, or he’ll have the EMH blow the planet up.
While Chakotay nods off and winds up in the shared dream, his threat is taken, and the aliens turn off the field. However, the crew finds itself unwilling to go back to sleep after that…
Can’t we just reverse the polarity? The device Chakotay uses to induce vision quests (seen just last episode with Neelix) can also induce a lucid dream, apparently. Lucid dreams are a real thing, by the way, and writer André Bormanis has had many such dreams in his time, which is what inspired the episode.
There’s coffee in that nebula! Janeway’s nightmare is that she won’t get the crew home before they all die.
Mr. Vulcan. Tuvok has the standard anxiety dream of showing up for duty naked, but in his case, he’s obviously more perturbed at being out of uniform (and from the humans’ discomfort) than from any particular taboo against nudity, as he acts in no way embarrassed nor does he try to cover up when he realizes he’s naked.
Everybody comes to Neelix’s. Neelix’s nightmares were sufficiently bad that he accidentally pours cooking oil into Paris’ coffee mug.
Half and half. Torres is now wearing a jacket with several tools in a pocket. This wardrobe change was done to accommodate Roxann Dawson’s pregnancy, which was starting to become very visible at this point.
Forever an ensign. Sigmund Freud once said that every dream is a wish. Kim’s dream is for Seven to seduce him, so Freud was probably right.
Please state the nature of the medical emergency. The EMH once again proves invaluable by virtue of not being organic, as his lack of need for sleep keeps him safe from the aliens. (“No rest for the not-weary.”)
No sex, please, we’re Starfleet. Paris’ nightmare causes him to oversleep and miss a breakfast date with Torres. Meanwhile, Kim’s dream is of Seven seducing him, which is the only one of the four we see in the teaser that isn’t really a nightmare. (And yes, the last thing she says before smooching Kim is, “Resistance is futile.”)
What happens on the holodeck stays on the holodeck. Torres and Paris arrange a date on the holodeck for the upcoming Friday, while Kim and Paris play hoverball on the holodeck in order to avoid going to sleep at the end.
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“Let’s go skiing. How about St. Moritz?”
“We went skiing last time.”
“And you loved it! You’re getting really good, y’know.”
“I just thought maybe we could run a program where the wind-chill factor wasn’t thirty below zero, like Fiji or Samoa.”
“There’s nothing to do there.”
“And you can be warm while you’re not doing it.”
“How about a compromise? Spring skiing in Chile? Much warmer…”
“A compromise? How about Tahiti?”
“Tahiti. As long as I can go waterskiing, fine.”
“You’re on.”
–Paris and Torres trying to figure out their upcoming holodeck date.
Welcome aboard. The only guest is Mark Colson as the alien. Neither the alien himself nor his species ever get a name.
Trivial matters: This was Alexander Singer’s last work in the biz, as it were. He was 69 years old when he directed this episode, and it’s also his last credit, as he has remained retired since. His career goes back to the early 1950s, and he’s directed for dozens of TV shows since 1961 from Lost in Space to The Fugitive to The Monkees to Mission: Impossible to Police Story to Police Woman to Lou Grant to Dallas to Cagney and Lacey, to each of the first three Trek spinoffs.
This is the fourth time a Trek actor has gotten pregnant. Like with Gates McFadden on TNG, Roxann Dawson’s is being written around. (Though the holodeck character she’ll be playing in “The Killing Game” two-parter will be pregnant to accommodate her.) The others, Nana Visitor on DS9 and Martha Hackett here on Voyager, were written into the storylines.
Set a course for home. “If I don’t contact my ship, you and I are both going to die in our sleep.” This is a nifty little episode, nothing world-changing, but it works. It’s a good vehicle for Chakotay with only minimal fake-Indian bullshit (limited mainly to one utterance of the nonsense phrase “ah-koo-chee-moya”). But lucid dreaming is a real thing, and while it didn’t need to be Chakotay who suggested it, it makes sense, especially given that he’s got experience with induced altered states through the vision quests.
I also like the way André Bormanis’ script plays with expectations. The revelation that Chakotay is still sleeping is an effective twist—much like the revelation in TNG’s “Ship in a Bottle” that Picard, Data, and Barclay are still in the holodeck—and it casts doubt on everything that happens after it, as you never know if Chakotay is really awake or asleep.
The only part of the episode that rings false is Kim’s “nightmare,” which is him being seduced by Seven. Kim’s crush on the ex-Borg has been pretty ineptly handled thus far this season, and this doesn’t really help matters. Everyone else had a legitimate nightmare—okay, Tuvok’s was low-stakes, but still.
It’s not clear how, exactly, these aliens could have evolved, but the script hangs a lantern on that by having the crew wonder the same thing. It would’ve been nice if they had come up with a bit more Star Trek-ish a solution than threatening to blow them up, but not everyone is going to come around and want to talk, I suppose.
Warp factor rating: 7
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This episode was pretty decent. It wasn’t a standout to me, but it was a fun episode that wasn’t overly focused on character development like much of the season had been. This gave it a nice “change of pace” feel.
Regarding Kim’s dream, while not a “nightmare,” it’s clearly a situation for which Kim feels a level of anxiety and therefore is something he might really dream about. In addition, it makes sense in context that this would be the one person who doesn’t want to wake up from their dream…
This one is a solid “meh,” for me. I think maybe it just reminds me a little too much of “Night Terrors” over on TNG, what with aliens messing around with your ability to dream and the crew being kept (or keeping themselves) awake. Other than Troi’s ridiculous flying, I think I prefer that episode over this one, as that one at least had a super creepy vibe (I always loved the image of the corpses in the morgue all suddenly sitting up under the sheets). There isn’t any real character work here (other than letting us know that Harry Kim’s idea of a nightmare is him getting laid), and nothing about it feels particularly unique to Voyager in any real way. I actually really like Chakotay and find his character interesting when they give him something to do, but other than his tolerance for altered mental states there is no real reason why it has to be him doing this, other than Robert Beltran was probably complaining about not having enough episodes about him again. It’s one of those episodes that I will watch if it is on, but other than that I find it largely forgettable.
I do like B’Elanna’s work smock, though! I know it was only there to accommodate Dawson’s pregnancy, but it was one of those little practical, common sense touches that actually made it feel like she really lived and worked on a Starship. It makes sense to me that people in engineering would have smocks or coveralls when they are crawling around working, and the (seeming) lack of places to put things when you are in uniform always seemed weird to me. My uniform has 10-12 pockets (depending on what version I am wearing, the summer OCPs ditched the breast pockets), plus two slots to put pens in on the sleeve, and I use them all the time. Voyager always seemed to have less uniform modifications than the other Trek shows, so it was nice to see hers.
Pretty neat episode, but nothing that really stands out. The thing I don’t get is why the aliens wanted to attack Voyager? They apparently spend their entire life in a dream state while their bodies lie on the ground in some cave. So what was the point? The one alien said something about defending themselves from awake species, but they were clearly the aggressors. When they took the crew hostage (in the dream state), what was the goal? Hold them there until they died in the real world? It just doesn’t make any sense to me, other than as a vehicle to do a dream state episode.
I recall finding the lucid-dreaming stuff a bit implausible in how easily and mechanically the whole “see the Moon” trigger worked. But then, I’ve never had a lucid dream (unless you count the pseudo-dreams you get in a hypnagogic state when you fall halfway back asleep again in the early morning), and if you say Bormanis had them frequently, I guess he must know what he’s writing about.
I’m not a fan of the “Oh, we got out — oops, we’re still in the illusion!” twist. It always happens, to the point of tiresome predictability. If they think they got out halfway through the episode, then of course they’re still trapped. Really, it would be a more effective twist if they really had gotten out the first time and the aliens attacked them a totally different way in the second half. Maybe make them think they’re still dreaming but have them figure out it’s real just before they blow themselves up.
I always found it to be a very enjoyable episode overall. One of my favorite things about it is a behind-the-scenes story told by Bob Picardo during conventions. The moment when Tuvok stepped out naked onto the bridge was accompanied by a prank – Russ asked the prop department to fit him with a sizeable “attachment”. According to Picardo, the wide shot of the cast cracking up is a real reaction to that.
“Either I’ve become impervious to anti-matter explosions or we’re still dreaming.”
This one’s rather fun. It’s logic is somewhat lacking in places but it’s a nice game of cat and mouse, with some decent twists and turns, as we first think an alien is attacking a crew in their sleep, then think that the aliens exist in the waking world as well, then realise the crew are all asleep. Chakotay’s turn to team up with the Doctor to save the ship and there are lots of good little moments, from Seven responding to a request for a diversion by beating Kim up, to Torres immediately twigging Kim’s been having a wet dream, to Chakotay moving a sleeping Paris out of the way to work the helm, to Tuvok trying very hard to tell Janeway as little about his dream as he can.
But, yeah. Janeway comments early on that they’ll probably never know how a race like this can exist and they still don’t at the end. Despite Chakotay saying the sleeping aliens look frail, their bodies don’t seem to have starved or atrophied, suggesting they’re receiving nourishment somehow. And how do they breed? Okay, maybe we just have to accept that they’re aliens and they’re different from us and their actions in their realm can sustain them in the waking world. That doesn’t explain how they’ve set up a neurogenic field generator in the waking world. And what’s their plan anyway? Is it simply what their spokesman initially tells Chakotay, that they lure anyone who comes near their world to sleep and keep them that way until their bodies die? The ending is a bit rushed too, with no real explanation for how the aliens can deactivate the neurogenic field. Can they wake up at will to press a few buttons?
Tuvok dreams of going to work naked: Seems Vulcans are embarrassed by the same things human are. Kim dreams of copping off with Seven: Well, it’s the closest he’s going to get. Janeway having a nightmare about the crew dying on their way home makes sense. Paris’ nightmare being him dying in a shuttle accident is interesting given his history: Some repressed guilt going on? Sadly, we don’t get to see Neelix being cooked. It’s actually him in the mess hall chat about the dreams, not Paris. Tuvok again says as little as possible.
Similarly, the point of the rather unnecessary tag scenes was that the crew now had insomnia (as the Doctor notes in his log entry), not that they didn’t want to sleep. Paris and Kim say they were trying to tire themselves out.
I’ve often found myself realising I’m dreaming, but curiously it’s never given me any real control over the dream as is claimed here. It happened a couple of months back and I actually found the experience quite boring…
It’s hard to do a dream state episode, but this is a competent attempt. The gimmick of having the crew have a shared dream is a pretty good wrinkle to add to it, and works well as an excuse to have the crew interact instead of doing individual dreams. It does get a bit predictable in places, especially the “twist” of Chakotay thinking he’s awake but still being asleep (and I’m not sure it makes sense – if the hand tapping didn’t wake him up for real the first time, why would it work the second time?).
All in all, it’s a decent effort, but doesn’t really come together to make more than a middling episode. It’s not great, but not terrible. I suppose the bar for Star Trek “what is reality” episodes have been set pretty high with DS9’s Far Beyond the Stars; this episode doesn’t come close, but still fills its time in a moderately entertaining manner.
I enjoyed this one. Roxann sure hid behind the furniture a lot. All of the sleepers in sick bay were under blankets too, a first for Star Trek?
This one didn’t do much for me. It’s not offensively bad or anything (certainly not on the level of Demon), but I’ve had a hard time caring for this story. It doesn’t help that the script never invests on who the alien is or what his intentions are. if the setting and mystery were interesting enough, I might understand the desire to keep those aspects hidden, but it’s not the case here.
As long as the subject is dreaming, I’d say I actually like TNG’s Night Terrors more than this one. At least the director made it a point to convey the fatigue plaguing the crew on that one. Meanwhile, Waking Moments manages to make the dream sequences generic and uninspired.
Krad also pointed out, it’s not much of a Trekkian solution to just have the crew threaten to dispatch the threat. And we’re already saddled with the most uninteresting, generic alien threat possible, so there’s no bite to these scenes, no matter how hard the actors try and sell them.
@5: I heard that story as well, from Tim Russ! Apparently there was some graphic hip thrusting at the time as well which I’m sure added to the reaction
@@.-@: Would it be refreshing to invert the scenario? Our heroes think they’re entering the illusion, but it’s IRL instead. They carry on like it’s a dream, though, laughing off friends’ deaths, catastrophic ship damage, and plot-ending countdowns. The aliens are so disturbed by their behavior that they leave anyhow. It’s kinda victory, of a sort.
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I feel like every time I’ve ever realized I’m dreaming, I almost immediately wake up.
Tuvok’s nightmare is one I’ve also experienced, and since the pandemic started, I’ve begun having a new version: I’m out in public and I realize I forgot my mask.
Looks like a prime candidate for the episode with the fewest comments in season 4.
“Then we turn this dream world of theirs into a nightmare.”
This one is a standout for me, probably because, like last episode, it gives Chakotay some spotlight.
I do appreciate Tuvok not being embarrassed about being naked, but simply annoyed that he forgot to put on his uniform (and that anecdote Bob Picardo shared sounds very Tim Russ, and explains why the crew cracking up feels very natural). Janeway and Paris’ dreams make sense, and of course Kim would dream of Seven of Nine, “Resistance is futile” and all. Poor Harry; he can’t escape being humiliated even in his dreams, as the details of the dream would have to be discussed due to the threat from the aliens.
We never find out about how the aliens exist, but it’s not really important, and I can live with the mystery.
David Bell does some standout work on the score, one of the very rare instances of standout music on Voyager. And Chakotay gets to save the day. This episode is a winner for me.
Chalk me up as one who rather enjoyed this episode – it’s good to see Mr Chakotay get the job done is his usual fine, dependable style (one can only assume that so long without a sound sleep, fear for the crew, his lingering Maquis tendencies and the sort of dream-related paranoia usually only found in the minds of the latest fresh meat on Elm Street left him a bit more inclined to high explosives than usual) and the only thing more entertaining than seeing Mr Kim keep a gentlemanly reticence about which woman of his dreams went looking for a little touch of Harry in the night is seeing Captain Janeway nearly as amused as I was by the oddly reassuring revelation that Vulcans have at least some of the same embarrassing dreams as mere humans.
To sum up – this was definitely an episode best enjoyed for its multitude of little character moments, allowing us to enjoy the warm familiarity of meeting up with old friends (I especially liked the last scene, with its feeling of warm rapport in the aftermath of a shared adventure … and Mr Tuvok’s mild vexation at stumbling onto same!).
This is one of the Voyager episodes I remember clearly living when I was growing up in a super Trekkie family. I loved the premise and the images of the moon were pretty awesome. The one other thing I do remember though is how rushed the teaser was with everybody basically showing up in the morning and immediately realizing they’d all had the same alien in their dream. It all just felt way too forced, but was worth it for the rest of the episode.
I should probably say at this point that I don’t believe I’ve ever had a public nudity dream. Probably because there’s no way I’d ever believe it was really happening. (I did have a “Not wearing a mask in public” dream a while back, but even that wasn’t the point of the dream: I just realised I was in a shop without a mask, looked round and thought “Oh well, no-one else is wearing one either so I guess that’s all right.”)
Am I the only one to think that Tuvok probably was embarrassed, but successfully repressed it with typical Vulcan stoicism, even in a dream? (He’s clearly wishing the turbolift would swallow him up when Janeway quizzes him about his dream later: “I don’t suppose I should ask why you were undressed?”/”I would prefer that you didn’t.”)
@19/cap-mjb: I don’t see why Vulcans would be susceptible to humans’ illogical, emotional modesty about our own bodies. I mean, nudity taboos are cultural and completely arbitrary, varying from culture to culture; a body part whose public exposure is taboo in one time and place can be completely acceptable to expose in another — for instance, some cultures insist on veiling the hair or the limbs or even the face in public, while others are fine with public toplessness or even full nudity so long as the genitals are not brazenly displayed.
To Vulcans, clothing standards are probably a matter of pure practicality. It’s perfectly in character that his only concern would be that he was out of uniform, improperly attired for bridge duty. Assuming anything else is projecting our own cultural values onto him.
@@@@@ 20 ChristopherLBennett – Too right. I, anxiously awaiting my copy of Rhythm of War, note that none of the human women on Voyager seem to be at all embarrassed by the fact that they’re all walking around with their safehands on full display.
@20/CLB: There seems to be very little practical about Vulcan clothing choices. Pretty much every time we see them in their own environment, a lot of them are wearing elaborate robes that would appear to be uncomfortable in the desert. (Indeed, the very fact they’re wearing robes which limit their freedom of movement suggest there’s an aesthetic or cultural tradition element to it.)
Since human nudity taboos still seem to exist in one form or another in this century (eg Julianna Taner’s comments about the Omicron colonists objecting to Data being naked), then there’s likely to be a taboo about not being naked around humans even if Vulcans are fine with it in private. Indeed, it’s notable that even though Tuvok was sleeping naked in his dream, when we cut to the real Tuvok waking up in his quarters, he’s clad in somewhat “modest” nightwear even when off duty and alone.
@22 It is truly amazing how many of the alien and human societies of the future still dress in accordance with Broadcast Standards and Practices and 20th century Western taboos and gender roles, isn’t it? ;)
@22/cap-mjb: Fine, so there are sartorial standards he follows. That does not equate to being “embarrassed.” That’s the point — you’re ascribing an emotion, not merely describing an action.
For Tuvok to imagine in his dream that the crew would find his being out of uniform so thoroughly wildly hilarious seems odd. If he isn’t embarrassed he should simply dream them being, perhaps, surprised that he would do such a thing. Maybe the aliens have nakedness taboos and this element was introduced into the dream by them?
@25/Lisa Conner: Tuvok may not have hangups about the humanoid body, but he’s aware that his crewmates do. And it seems natural enough that a Vulcan would dream of non-Vulcan, emotional crewmates reacting with inappropriately exaggerated emotion to any situation, because that’s basically how they see us all the time anyway.
Count me with CLB, as one who is not a fan of the “Oh, we got out—oops, we’re still in the illusion!” twist. It always happens, to the point of tiresome predictability.
I had no trouble accepting that Kim’s dream of suddenly being seduced by Seven was really a nightmare for him. Maybe I’m too gullible, but I took it that he was immediately suspicious of *her* sudden change in character, making him not only unable to yield to the illusion but fearful of what her motives could be, and therefore being terrified of being trapped and assimilated. It was not until I was writing this comment that it occurred to me what kind of subconscious fears this might represent.
(*WHAT is going on with the commenting feature? I could not “paste” into the comment box any text that had been written elsewhere, and had to completely retype it—although oddly, it would accept copied em dashes!)
@27/srEDIT: That inability to copy and paste seems to be happening a lot here lately, though it comes and goes. I found that you can copy/paste things from a different program, like a word processor. So maybe you could copy it to there and copy it back here, which might take less time than retyping if it’s a long passage.
Well, it’s also illogical that Vulcans would be so embarrassed about Pon Farr and their mating practices, but it was established in multiple series. If they had no taboos about nudity, they wouldn’t always wear bulky robes (everyone except T’Pol that is).
@30/salix: Yes, of course Vulcans have things they’re embarrassed about, but that does not mean they share the same embarrassments we have. That’s my point. Different cultures have different taboos. It’s arrogant to assume that our Western nudity taboo would automatically be shared by an alien culture when it isn’t even universal on Earth.
I mean, Vulcan’s a hot planet. Cultures from hotter climes are often more open about going nude, as a simple matter of practicality and comfort. Although in desert climates, it’s a good idea to stay covered against the sun — but that wouldn’t necessarily apply indoors.
@22. cap-mjb: Given that rather elaborate robes are the ancestral and customary outfits of (amongst others) the Arabs & the Berbers – cultures which know more abut desert living than most – may I suggest that it seems rather discourteous to suggest that this sort of thing would be wholly impractical for a desert species like the Vulcans?
It also bears pointing out that OF COURSE Vulcans would find being laughed at disagreeable – it not only undermines their dignity, it’s quite possibly the loudest possible display of emotionalism!
Is it just me, or are there a whole lot of Voyager episodes with dreams, illusions, etc. Because this storyline sure seems familiar.
FYI to CLB@28: I *did* try that! I rewrote the top paragraph twice. Once into the text box of my email client, and when that didn’t work, I rewrote it into MS Word. Neither one of those would paste into the text box here.
Shouldn’t Chakotay’s vision of the moon feature New Tycho City and Lake Armstrong? I assume he would have the 24th Century version in his mind not the 20ths
This is a quite good episode but then dream movies and television episodes are a bit of a favourite of mine, I actually didn’t mindNight Terrors in TNG although most hated it. One of my favourite films ever is Inception and this has almost some of the same ideas but done more basically, but still entertaining.
@36/chadefallstar: Would city lights on the Moon be visible on its sunlit face? On Earth, you can generally only see them on the night side, so I’d assume the same would be true of the Moon.
Besides, realistically, Lunar cities would have to be underground, since the Moon has no ozone layer to block radiation.
37. ChristopherLBennett… not what Riker said to Cochrane in First Contact,he said he would be able to see both on a beautiful sunlit day from earth.
@38/chadefallstar: Maybe you could see them on the dark side if the Moon were in a partial phase. I don’t find it plausible that you could see city lights on the Lunar dayside in the daytime sky from Earth.
I always took the mention on First Contact to mean that at least part of the moon had been terraformed, and Lake Armstrong was visible due to it being a different colour. The blues of the lunar lake’s waters, and the green vegetation surrounding it. That sort of change to the face of the moon would be naked eye visible, and no illumination needed.
@40. kayom I took him to mean that too, which would mean the moon look very different to Chkotay in the 24th century.
@40/kayom: That’s a fair point about the lake. I hadn’t remembered that.
I wonder why Chakotay didn’t slip back into the shared dream when he fell asleep on the bridge and was subsequently woken up by the doctor.
I find this episode fascinating because I’ve actually lucid dreamed before lots of times. The moon check is a very real technique (called a totem) and is the basis for the movie Inception. The one place that it started losing me was the shared dream stuff, but you just kind of have to accept that as trek universe stuff.
What would have been cool is if they had ended this episode per normal, but then carried the concept into the next episode (unbeknownst to the viewer) and at some point during that episode Chakotay realizes he’s still dreaming. Actually, who is to say the crew ever woke up? The rest of the Voyager seasons could all be more dreaming from this episode, and the EMH is still back in the real world keeping everybody alive.
Why did Chakotay fail to wake up the first time? Why didn’t the aliens know the crew were onto them? Are the aliens unable to wake themselves? I thought Kim’s dream in the teaser was a nightmare because Seven is revealed to be an alien in disguise. It’s funny Alexander Singer retired at the point Voyager was about to make contact with Earth. I never knew Martha Hackett’s pregnancy was a real one. I wish Mark Colson had more presence as the dream alien, imagine if it had been Michael McKean’s clown instead. And I don’t mind some of Trek’s more refreshingly blunt solutions.
1: I always thought Kim’s nightmare was meant to reflect performance anxiety. 6: What directed dreams do filmmakers have? 7: When VGR rehashes ideas already done by the other Trek shows, they’re often more pallid. 9: I’ve always thought Night Terrors is rather underrated too. 10: They need Gareth’s sex toy from The Office! 11: Sounds like an episode of Red Dwarf! 13: What’s that got to do with Waking Moments? 15: It’s only been one day! 16: Would the crew be forced to share the details of their dreams or just with the Doctor?
17: “Dependable” – I hate that word! And Vulcans yawn too! 20: Tuvok admitted in Flashback that humans have an irritating habit of imposing their cultural mores onto others. 21: “Safehands” – that’s a new one to me. 22: Vulcans are hardier than humans so perhaps they don’t place as much of a premium on comfort. 27: Kim didn’t seem fearful to me until he saw the alien instead of Seven. 28: Tor.com wouldn’t accept my comment of Scorpion, Pt II and I never found out why. 30: Maybe Vulcan women like silky robes. 34: VGR does love the reset button, doesn’t it? 43: Good point! 44: Sounds like Dallas when Bobby Ewing died but it turns out it was one long dream (it lasted a whole season!).
@Krad/What happens on the holodeck stays on the holodeck:
Apologies if someone mentioned this already in the comments (I did peruse them, but really quickly). According to the wording in the script, Tom and Harry didn’t play hoverball to stay awake, they played it to wear themselves out in an effort to get back to sleep.